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TOC Voting Members 

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Company

Jack Murray Co-Chair

AT&T

Jinri Huang Co-Chair

China Mobile

David Streibl

Deutsche Telekom 

Masafumi Masuda

NTT DOCOMO

Vincent DannoOrange

Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya

Verizon

Available (7)Available (7)
Available (8)Available (8)
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todays agenda

2019 08 07

31

Agenda

  1. Call for Scribe (minutes owner) Farheen Cefalu (AT&T)
  2. Roll Call & Quorum Check 

    Company

    Contact NameAttendanceAlternate ContactAttendance

    AT&T

    Jack Murray Co-Chair




    China Mobile

    Jinri Huang Co-Chair




    Deutsche Telekom 

    David Streibl




    NTT DOCOMO

    Masafumi Masuda




    Orange

    Vincent Danno




    Viswa Kumar




    *Quorum: 50% or more of total TSC voting members unless excluded due to attendance.  We have a quoram and can vote on activities.  

  3. Review and Agree to Minutes of Previous Meeting
  4. Review of Today's Agenda
  5. Status of Open Action Items (Old Business)
    1. Action/ user-2057e  provide the voting outcome for naming of release "A". 
    2. Action / John Murray CLA status.
    3. ActionJinri Huang Check with the co-chairs regarding a demo.  I will need more information about the demo.ActionXiaohua Zhang send an email to user-d3360 regarding your request for a repouser-d3360 will take care of creating the INF project.  Xiaohua Zhang will be the committer.
    4. Action/  user-d3360 send out an email reflector to toc regarding voting and approval for the list of repos for the Near realtime RIC project.Intel and TOC elect PTL.  Intel and Radisys agreed to have Zhimin Yuan be the PTL and Sachin Srivastava as Co-PTL of the O-DU project. Zhimin and Sachin will coordinate on the O-DU project management going forward.
    5. CMCC would like to nominate Weichen Ni Action/ TOC take a vote for PTL of INF project
    6. CMCC would like to nominate Yingying Wang for PTL of O-CU project
    7. .
    8. Action/ Jinri Huangsort out the PTLs for Documentation PTL
    9. ActionFarheen Cefalu set up the page for the meeting and put the power point slide from Ziminek on the schedule.
    10. ActionVincent Danno send an email reflector about your replacement as the TOC member of the O-RAN Software Community
    11. Action/ TOC: Alex Stancu, Senior Software and Telecommunications Engineer at highstreet technologies. I would like to nominate myself as the PTL of the SIM project through this email and in addition in tomorrow's (2019-08-07) ToC Meeting.Remaining open PTL positions   Documentation, Simulator, O-RU
  6. Standing Agenda Items (Brief Status of Ongoing Activities)

    1. Release Manager/Release Planning: Weekly TOC Scheduling
      1. Release planning link
    2. Report out from PTL: Stand-Up & Report Out on Blockers
      1. Non Real Time RIC John Keeney
    3. Test & Integration Planning - Lusheng

    4. Report Out of Sub-Committees
      1. Requirements Software Architecture Committee - Rittwik
  7. New Agenda Items (New Business): New Items Submitted (+speaker) & Open Call to TOC For Additional Items

    1. a. TOC schedule on O-RAN F2F meeting in Mexico in October
    2. 3GPP specifications and copyright discussions
  8. Any Other Business Any Other Business (AOB)
  9. Meeting Summary (resolutions, new action items, etc.)

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previous meeting

2019 07

24

31

Zoom Recording: 2019

zoom meeting recording: 2019-07-2431-toc.mp4chat

Agenda

  1. Call for Scribe (minutes owner) Farheen Cefalu (AT&T)
  2. Roll Call & Quorum Check 

    x

    Company

    Contact NameAttendanceAlternate ContactAttendance

    AT&T

    Jack Murray Co-Chair

    x



    China Mobile

    Jinri Huang Co-Chair

    x

    Deutsche Telekom 

    David Streibl




    NTT DOCOMO

    Masafumi Masuda

    x

    Orange

    Vincent Danno

    x

    Viswa Kumar

    x




    *Quorum: 50% or more of total TSC voting members unless excluded due to attendance.  We have a quorum quoram and can vote on activities.  

  3. Review and Agree to Minutes of Previous Meeting
    1. The minutes of the prior meeting were reviewed, and there were no corrections. On motion made by Jinri and seconded by David the minutes of the July 1724, 2019 meeting were the approved by the TOC members. 
      1. VOTE: Vote taken, item passed.
  4. Review of Today's Agenda
  5. Status of Open Action Items (Old Business)
    1. Action/  user-2057e - provide an update of Release   provide the voting outcome for naming of release "A" name
        ActionFarheen Cefalu - link Poll to vote and explain how the team can take Polls.
        1. Release A will be the color Amber
      1. Action / John Murray CLA status.
        1. ORAN has approved the license charter and CLA for ORAN Specification code project.  Jinri and Jack are working We had a discussion with Ziminek from the Oran Alliance on setting up a website to link to it.  Working with ORAN Alliance to create an introduction, charter, and license will be available as read only.  On this side we can make sure that our repositories are leveraging the licenses properly.
          1. Tristan - We have the platform ready to receive the signed CLAs from ORAN.  
        2. It opens up the ability to do work with the license.  The contributors can start contributing.
          1. Tristan - we won't hold up the development process.  
        3. Assuming Stefan is on vacation.
          1. Jinri - Hank briefed the voting status at the board.  We had 15 board members.  We got 8 from them.  EC approved all the documents.  They are delayed by a few days because they are still collecting votes.  I believe Stefan will send the document they want to you.
      2. Action/ John Murray will provide a contact from WG8 to David Kinsey 
      3. ActionVincent Danno discuss the email about who wants to participate at ONS Europe and how best to represent the ORAN software community space there.
        1. Vincent - Not participation but more about planning the demos.  There has been some reaction to my email.  There will be one Orange Phillppe will have a demo.
        2. Are we going to have demos? 
          1. Vincent - Not sure if LF agreed to pass the deadline for the demos.  
            1. Jinri - W4 demos will be there.  ORAN Alliance demos will be there.  
              1. Vincent - We are not planning a demo it will be a key note.
              2. Action/ Jinri Huang Check with the co-chairs regarding a demo.  I will need more information about the demo.
                1. The deadline is July 31, 2019.  There is still time to submit a demo.
      4. ActionJinri Huang come up with a naming convention to differentiate the Near real time RIC with the Non real time RIC that prevents the duplication of the short name (KEY) NRTRIC in LF Jira and Confluence.  Jira/Confluence do not support mixed case keys.  Keys are all upper case.
        1. Thank you Lusheng for supporting the naming convention.  
          1. In the meeting minutes we should use the name defined by the Alliance in their White paper.  
          2. Reference Jiniri's reflector.
            1. Here is my proposal.

              1, for most occasions such as in the meeting minute, in the Release A epic document where there is no constraint on the naming, the name defined in O-RAN Alliance White Paper shall be used, which are:
              non-realtime RIC, abbreviated as, Non-RT RIC, or NRT RIC;
              near-realtime RIC, abbreviated as, near-RT RIC, or nRT RIC; // note, it it is about the platform, then the word “platform” should be explicitly spelled out.

              2, For project name and the corresponding project key, as shown here at https://wiki.o-ran-sc.org/display/ORAN/Projects, proposal is:

              "Non-realtime RIC (or Non-RT RIC, or NRT RIC) as the project name, with project key as “NRTRIC"
              "Near-reamtime RIC platform (or near-RT RIC platform, or nRT RIC platform) as the project name, with project key as “RICPLF"

              3, For repo name which requires lower case, digits, slash and dash, suggest to use “non-rt-ric” and “nrt-ric-plf” for Non-RT RIC and near-RT RIC platform, respectively.

              1. Lusheng - Can we keep the existing defined names for the repos?  We agreed to the naming convention in the past.  This is an amendment to the June 12th naming.
                1. Jinri - I am OK with that.
              2. John - suggested to use No-real time RIC.  We need a to set up the accounts for gerret and jira.  I suggest NONRTRIC for Non real time RIC.  NRTRIC for near-realtime RIC.  NONRTRIC for Non real time RIC.  
              3.  John Keeney I propose for the Project KEY NONRTRIC.  I am most concerned about the short names for Jira and gerret.  For that let us call NRTRIC and NONRTRIC.
                1. Lusheng - Jira is more strict about project key naming conventions.  Project keys in Jira are all capital letters.
                2. The proposal to have the Project KEY for non-realtime RIC be named NONRTRIC.  On motion made by John Keeney , and Jinri Huang seconded the vote
                  1. VOTE: Vote taken, item passed.
      5. Discussion on alignment between Non-realtime RIC and OAM projects. 

        Non-realtime RIC focus on feature functionality of A1-interface (consumer and provider), and closed-loop use cases.
        OAM focus on align of O1 interfaces on ME and verification of related interface specifications.
        Both projects will align activities on a case-by-case based for O1 interfaces (NetConf client ODL, and http-Server – ves-receiver from DCAE).
        Current ONAP baseline should be Dublin for Release A

        1. Martin - In one hour we'll have a pre El Alto release.  The POC is between Dublin and El Alto for bug fixes of several ORAN components. 
          1. The benefit is we will have our fixes in for El Alto.  
            1. Jack is OK with it but we will have to figure out the process for the integration and test.  If we take an intermediate release of ONAP it may break another component such as DCAE.  We want to use it but we have to be cautious about a non-branched release and just tracking the trunk across something as complex as ONAP because one piece may work but other components may not work.  This is complicated for the test team.
            2. Andrew - We strongly discourage any projects being pulled in between releases such as a snapshots.  
            3. Martin - This is a suggestion as a temporary solution for demos.
              1. Jack - Our dev freezes October 12.  We need to discuss further with the working groups.  But until it is released we will use our current release.
              2. Tracy - We're trying to stay no more than one release behind.  
                1. It's going to be difficult to coordinate but there are other projects.  We'll have to create a map of upstream.  Let us continue our discussions.
              3. John - We are doing our best to get our development started in the next couple of weeks.
    2. Standing Agenda Items (Brief Status of Ongoing Activities)

        1. the website and the information on the website to describe what's going on.  We are also getting a demo from LF tomorrow on how the CLA process will work.  Tristan is supporting us now that we have the official copy of both charters and CLAs.  Will be in place for all our projects.  We are in the execution phase and not the waiting for approval stage.
      1. ActionJinri Huang Check with the co-chairs regarding a demo.  I will need more information about the demo.
        1. This is for the ONS in Europe.  I have set out to WG co chairs.  Announced to TOC on Friday.  So far no feedback.  Today is the deadline for the proposal.
          1. As we get more organized we need to pull together events and coordinating with the ORAN Alliance and members as well.  We need to get a community facing organization in the events.  Do we formalize it as a sub committee or is it based on volunteer.  In our case it is complicated so it may make sense to make a sub committee.  Let us discuss and see if it is something we want to do.  In addition there is an OSS meeting in North America San Diego I will be there.  If anyone wants to get involved send John Murray a note.  This is not the networking one.  This if for general open source projects.
            1. There is a less formal wiki process to self nominate yourself for the on conference track.
            2. Trishan - If you have a demo for ONS EU talk to Trishan de Lanerolle.  If you already attending ONS you can get a talk in. 
              1. Vincent -  We will not have a demo at ONS.  We are too young.  We will have a key note on ORAN so there is some visibility on what we are doing.  Jack you raised a point about future events.  I am not sure that we need an Events planning committee yet.  Jinri agrees.  
                1. Jack - We need to continue to discuss going forward.  There may be an on conference track at the european event if someone wants to 
      2. ActionXiaohua Zhang send an email to user-d3360 regarding your request for a repo for Infrastructure.  
        1. Actionuser-d3360 will take care of creating the INF project.  Xiaohua Zhang will be the committer.
          1. TOC vote taken on Xiaohua Zhang for creation of PTI/RTP for the INF project.  This is an additional repo in the INF project. 
            1. VOTE: Vote taken, item passed.
      3. Actionuser-d3360 send out an email reflector to toc regarding voting and approval for the list of repos for the Non realtime RIC project.
      4. Action/ TOC elect PTL.  Intel and Radisys agreed to have Zhimin Yuan be the PTL and Sachin Srivastava as Co-PTL of the O-DU project. Zhimin and Sachin will coordinate on the O-DU project management going forward.
        1. LF doesn't support co PTLs.  There are discussions on how best to handle this.  They are deciding whether or not to break out for layer 1 and layer 2 activities with two PTLs.  We are not ready for a vote today but I will open the floor for any discussions. 
          1. 2 PTLs on one project vs. 2 projects led by 1 PTL. The same thing we did for NONRTRIC and RICNRT.  
          2. This team has to continue discussions.  
            1. Rittwik - The project will be delayed.  We are already in sprint 1.  
              1. Is it one project or two projects?  
                1. For RSAC we put it in the OCU.  
                  1. Jack - We will move forward and close this next week.
      5. CMCC would like to nominate Weichen Ni for PTL of INF project
        1. We also have a nomination from Wind River for the INF project.  What is the best path forward.  What's the best path for the INF project for us to consider?
          1. @weichan The PTL from Radisys is the best option.  I don't have a good idea to go through it.
          2. Xiaohua Zhang  self nominated as PTL for 
            1. Xiaohua 20 years experience in telecom and networking.  Six years ago worked on technology domain CRAN.  Taking responsibility for Open Stack.  Lots of experience working at Wind River.  
              1. PTL role for a project like INF there will be sub efforts or threads that the community wants to do.  You have to wear that hat and support the community with that community project.  Wind River will have to support different INF threads of the sub community.  You have to keep an open mind to what the community is trying to accomplish and may require support of the project of all the different sub activities under that project.  Because the PTL is associated with a company there may be bias but he or she must support the open community including community members from competing companies. 
                1. Xiaohua - Understood.
                2. Vincent - Suggesting Xiaohua has discussed collaboration of the project.  Have you had discussions.  weichen ni collaborated in the past and had involved in demos.  For future work Xiaohua submitted to mail list his plans.  
                3. Jinri - They both have experience.
                4. Jack - No matter which way the vote goes thank you both for participating.
          3. Motion made by Jinri to consider approval of Weichen the PTL for INF project.  Not seconded.
          4. No TOC made a motion to consider approval of Xiaohua.  
            1. Vincent wants to discuss more. 
            2. Action/ TOC take a vote for PTL of INF.
      6. CMCC would like to nominate Yingying Wang for PTL of O-CU project
        1. Motion made by Jinri Huang to approve user-a934b seconded by Vincent Danno seconded.
          1. VOTE: Vote taken, item passed.
      7. Remaining open PTL positions   Documentation, Simulator, O-RU
        1. Action/ Jinri Huangsort out the PTLs for Documentation PTL.
        2. We need to resolve the lack of a PTL for the Simulator project.
    3. Standing Agenda Items (Brief Status of Ongoing Activities)

      1. Release Manager/Release Planning: Weekly TOC Scheduling
        1. Release planning link
          1. Jinri noticed that hte ORAN demo is scheduled for he week of 10/28.  We want to capture the event.  
          2. Jack - we can do the demo at the event.  It's one week earlier.  I'd like to leave it on the calendar.  This is the completion of the ETE testing cycle so the demo is working.  We don't need to move the schedule.  It will completed by that date but there may be bug fixes.
            1. Jinri - It would be good to keep in mind.  
              1. Jack - we'll put it on the agenda but we'll keep the target for that week.  We will certainly do a demo that week
        Release Manager/Release Planning: Weekly TOC Scheduling
        1. Release planning link
          1. I didn't see any comments to tying in to the ORAN Alliance and the B release time table.  If you have comments post them
              1. .
      2. Report out from PTL: Stand-Up & Report Out on BlockersOut on Blockers
        1. Non Real Time RIC - John Keeney
          1. Some contribution in the A release would be helpful to the project.  
            1. John - agree we are still working on getting situated. 
            2. Jirnri - Why can't we get something in release A?
              1. They are unnecessary until release B.
        2. Non Real Time RIC
      3. Test & Integration Planning - Lusheng

      4. Report Out of Sub-Committees
        1. Requirements Software Architecture Committee - Rittwik- Rittwik
        2. Closing out the design documents and epics are wrapping up.  Design document is getting flushed out now.  Some tasks are clear others are not.  those that are unclear are incentivized to come up with suggestions.  
        3. Jack - Start thinking about release B input ahead of time. 
    4. New Agenda Items (New Business): New Items Submitted (+speaker) & Open Call to TOC For Additional Items

      1. a. TOC schedule on O-RAN F2F meeting in Mexico in October
        1. Jinri - There will be ORAN Alliance working group face to face the week of October 14.  Like previous meeting.  In Tokyo we occupied two days.  Monday and Wednesday. Each one lasting 3 hours.  In total we had six hours for our face to face.  For the upcoming Mexico meeting will we use the same schedule or do you want to change?  Each session will last three hours.
        2. Jack - When is the deadline to decide? 
          1. next friday feedback to Ziminek.
            1. At the same time the working groups can meet like the Architecture subcommittee.
            2. ActionFarheen Cefalu set up the page for the meeting and put the power point slide from Ziminek on the schedule.
      2. 3GPP specifications and copyright discussions
        1. Jack - We need to have permission to use this copyright.  In 
      3. William will take over Vincent spot as TOC.  ActionVincent Danno send an email reflector about your replacement as the TOC member of the O-RAN Software Community
      4. Request for new repos from John Keeney

      New Agenda Items (New Business): New Items Submitted (+speaker) & Open Call to TOC For Additional Items

      1. Intel and Radisys agreed to have Zhimin Yuan be the PTL and Sachin Srivastava as Co-PTL of the O-DU project. Zhimin and Sachin will coordinate on the O-DU project management going forward.
      2. CMCC would like to nominate Weichen Ni for PTL of INF project
      3. CMCC would like to nominate Yingying Wang for PTL of O-CU project
      4. Remaining open PTL positions   Documentation, Simulator, O-RU
      5. Vincent - Talk about the new reflector.
        1. I have experienced strange behavior for the emails.  I sent an email weeks ago and conversely I received a bunch of emails that were sent much earlier.  Such as a message I received 10 days later.
        2. user-d3360  the mailing list was set up so the very first member is a moderator and required approval.  I was away last week but have changed your role as non moderated.
      6. Creation of repo questions
        1. Xiaohua Zhang  from Wind River  - asked for a repo be created under the Infrastructure project.  Leveraging the Apache license.  
          1. ActionXiaohua Zhang send an email to user-d3360  
      7. Quality of release A SonarCloud for unit test coverage.  LF requires TOC approval for which repos we can move forward.  
      8. Lusheng proposed to move forward for a list of repos under the Near realtime RIC platform and application project.
      9. Actionuser-d3360 send out an email reflector to toc regarding voting and approval for the list of repos for the Near realtime RIC project.
    5. Any Other Business (AOB)
    6. Meeting Summary (resolutions, new action items, etc.)
      1. Votes
        1. The minutes of the prior meeting were reviewed, and there were no corrections. On motion made by Jinri and seconded by David by David the minutes of the July 24, 2019 meeting were the approved by the TOC members. 
          1. VOTE: Vote taken, item passed.
        2. TOC vote taken on Xiaohua Zhang for creation of PTI/RTP for the INF project.  This is an additional repo in the INF projectthe minutes of the July 17, 2019 meeting were the approved by the TOC members
          1. VOTE: Vote taken, item passed.
        3. The proposal to have the Project KEY for non-realtime RIC be named NONRTRICCMCC would like to nominate Yingying Wang for PTL of O-CU project.  On motion Motion made by John Keeney , and Jinri Huang seconded the vote to approve user-a934b seconded by Vincent Danno seconded.
          1. VOTE: Vote taken, item passed.
        Actions
      2. Action
          / John Murray CLA status.
        1. Action/  Jinri Huang Check with the co-chairs regarding a demo.  I will need more information about the demo.ActionXiaohua Zhang send an email to user-d3360 regarding your request for a repo user-2057e  provide the voting outcome for naming of release "A". 
        2. Action / John Murray CLA status.
        3. Actionuser-d3360 send out an email reflector to toc regarding voting and approval for the list of repos for the Near realtime RIC project. will take care of creating the INF project.  Xiaohua Zhang will be the committer.
        4. Action/ TOC elect PTL.  Intel and Radisys agreed to have Zhimin Yuan be the PTL and Sachin Srivastava as Co-PTL of the O-DU project. Zhimin and Sachin will coordinate on the O-DU project management going forward.
        5. CMCC would like to nominate Weichen Ni for PTL of INF project
        6. CMCC would like to nominate Yingying Wang for PTL of O-CU project
        7. going forward.
        8. Action/ TOC take a vote for PTL of INF.
        9. Action/ Jinri Huangsort out the PTLs for Documentation PTL
        10. ActionFarheen Cefalu set up the page for the meeting and put the power point slide from Ziminek on the schedule.
        11. ActionVincent Danno send an email reflector about your replacement as the TOC member of the O-RAN Software CommunityRemaining open PTL positions   Documentation, Simulator, O-RU


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